Is an issue of Economic Pragmatism, not morality.

The Webmaster at Raving Atheist also considers himself a feminist and is also Pro-life. The thing is there is a difference between your defining her morals and her wanting to legalize hers. I guess I would want to know what your friend thought the punishment should be for Abortion.

Maybe we should invite them to a debate. :-)

How can you be pro-women's-rights in all of these other areas, but when it comes to a woman's fundamental right to control her body, determine her reproductive destiny, her reproductive freedom, her autonomy, and her right to tell and demonstrate to a patriarchal society that she will not be made into birthing chattel against her will, you're against it--so how can you honestly be feminist? And how can you be feminist when you go by the "moral values" according to patriarchal standards when it comes to pregnancy and women's bodies? To me it is an oxymoron and personally, I do not believe that you can be feminist, yet be against a woman's right to choose. To me, reproductive rights--abortion and contraception--are too fundamental in promoting women's liberation from patriarchal societal constructs.

One of the Commenters put up this from Findlaw

In one of the essays on abortion supplied by FFL, the writer says the following of birth control: "Contraceptives fail, and half of all aborting women admit they weren't using them anyway. Thus, preventing unplanned pregnancies will involve a return to sexual responsibility. This means either avoiding sex in situations where a child cannot be welcomed, or being willing to be responsible for lives unintentionally conceived, perhaps by making an adoption plan, entering a marriage, or faithful child support payments."

Rather than encouraging the use of contraceptives (perhaps by the half of aborting women who admit they were not using them, and by their sexual partners), the FFL solution appears to be abstinence, marriage, or giving up children to adoption.

i've met some women over the years who claimed to be "pro life" feminists. their argument was that patriarchy does not value the sanctity of lives other than their own. feminism in contrast, should be about affirming life. now, i could at least follow that logic from those who, although personally pro-life, believed that the law should protect each woman's right to choose.

but the ones who thought abortion should be made illegal, that women should be forced into the role of fetus nurturer against her will? that never made any sense to me at all.

i respect feminists who personally would choose not to have an abortion. i can't respect the stance of those who would legislate their personal choice onto other women. those women may choose to call themselves feminists, but they aren't.

...take a look at NOW's show tonight.

Video here soon.